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From: Steve Simon <steve@qui...> Subject: plumbing, upas/fs and faces setup Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:35:01 +0000 I think the problm is that you have two copies of the plumber. faces(1) sends events to "showmail" which causes the plumber to start nedmail to view your messages. faces also listens to the plumbers "seemail" port - and is usually sent messages by upas/fs when new mail arrives or mail is deleted. The problems is that upas/fs that runs on your console (I assume you mean the physical VGA screen and keyboard) is talking to a different plumber to the one your faces is listening to (on a cpu/drawterm connection). -Steve