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From: David Leimbach <leimy2k@gma...> Subject: gcc on plan9 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:16:13 -0700 On 6/7/06, LluĂ­s Batlle i Rossell <viriketo@gma...> wrote: > Corey wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 14:25, Rodolfo (kix) wrote: > > > >>God save us from QT and GTK ;) > >> > > > > > > Will god likewise save us from Rio and Acme? > In fact I use rio in Linux at my job. And by now I don't use Acme > because I have to deal with veryawfulcode (lots of very bad indentations > fruit of many tab/spaces/tab/spaces at code changes, functions more than > 1500 lines long, an unworkable hierarchy of header files...). I agree > that acme is really pleasant for well-written code. As an example, I > like surfing plan9's with it. Also my code looks better if it's written > with acme, but this part is too subjective. :) > > Let's wonder why there is plan9port but there is no gcc in plan9. > I think a part of the problem is the momentum that linux got, and people have been fighting with the pains of migrating from windows (those that try to use linux as a desktop OS). Many people got frustrated with Linux and went to Mac OS X. I don't see Plan 9 as a desktop OS for sure, but thanks to virtualization technology (which certainly isn't new), I can run Plan 9 on my desktop in it's own VM and use the bits of Plan 9 that I want or feel that I need. P9P also helps here. I'm not sure if we've got any killer apps to bring people to Plan 9 though. Mac OS X has the "Ooooh Shiny" effect on people. Linux had uhm... Apache I guess that helped it get off the ground as a viable alternative to expensive servers. So the question is really, what does plan 9 do better that people actually care about? I usually don't have a good answer for this question. I'm not sure saying "support gcc and all our problems are solved" is a good approach though. There's gotta be something we can do the Plan 9 way to WOW people enough to give it a first or even second look. As for me... I like operating systems, sometimes I wonder why, but I do.