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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@qua...>
Subject: complaints about new web site
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:38:05 -0600 (CST)


"Russ Cox" <rsc@swt...> writes

| 
| It's probably a very good sign that the only actual complaints we've
| gotten about the web site have been about how ugly the HTML
| source is.  Hopefully that's the biggest problem it has.
| 
| The web site is generated from troff sources by a new program
| called htmlroff, which I mentioned in an earlier post and which
| will appear on sources once I document it.  Representative commands
| are:
| 
| 	htmlroff -mhtml glenda.tr >glenda.html
| 	pic utf.ms | tbl | eqn | htmlroff -ms -mhtml >utf.html
| 
| [more good info]

russ, this is pretty^wvery cool. 

| If the web pages don't look right in some browser, then I'm
| happy to accomodate that.  Like Opera:
| 
| > Nixing the <center> and having
| > 
| > <table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 bgcolor="#eeeeff"><tr>
| > <td align="center" valign="top">
| > <pre>
| > [...]
| > 
| > would probably fix it.  The <center> tag is deprecated nowadays anyway.
| 
| The <center> tag isn't the problem.  Opera is broken.  If I do this:
| 
| 	<table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 bgcolor="#eeeeff"><tr>
| 	<td align="center" valign="top">
| 	<pre>
| 
| then Opera still centers the text inside the <pre>!  You have to use:
| 
| 	<table width="100%" cellspacing=0 border=0><tr><td align="center">
| 	<table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 bgcolor="#eeeeff"><tr><td align="left">
| 	<pre>
| 
| to make Opera center a block. 

opera may be broken, but it does an okay job of organizing its own windows.
firefox tabs allow me one page at a time, like screens for the web.

if this fix works with other browsers too, it might be nice if it were used.

- erik