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From: Adam Miller adamm@ada...
Subject: The future of Plan9?
Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 04:39:25 GMT

Alex you do not know me but I saw your post in the plan9 group. I have
a question maybe you can answer it. When will the Cisco 12000 be out?
Also on a 2505 when you do show version and it does not show any flash
memory is that true meaning there is no flash and no IOS or is it a
lie and there actually is simm memory and IOS hiding somewhere?

Adam Miller
adamm@ada...
www.adamm.net

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 23:37:56 GMT, in comp.os.plan9 you wrote:

>As a long-time friend of Plan9 and someone who purchased the Plan9
>license back in '95, I found all this discussion from a couple of
>weeks ago very interesting.
>
>I personally have been very intrigued by Plan9 ever since I first
>heard about it and was hoping to be able to spend some time with the
>system but never really had the chance to do so.
>
>All this talk about "What's happening with Plan9?" and "How about
>Brazil?" left me wondering what the community really is hoping to get
>out of these developments. From Bell Labs' eh, I mean Lucent's
>perspective, things are pretty clear. Their primary focus right now is
>a commercially viable system that will bring in some revenue. Plan9 is
>not it and Brazil won't be it either. That's were Inferno comes in and
>anybody who hangs out at the Inferno mailing-list knows, most
>discussion there has been about commercial aspects of the system
>lately.
>
>So, the question is: Where to from here? It appears to me that the
>people who do stuff with Plan9 (mostly academic and hobbyists) can't
>really get a grip on what it is they want out of it. Is it a learning
>system? A home system? A commercial system? Whatever it is, it
>attracts people from different parts of the World with different
>interests. People who, for some reason, don't feel like tinkering
>around with *BSD, Linux or commercial OS's.
>
>OK, now, let's have some discussion here as to where you want to go
>with Plan9 (reference to Microsoft commercial unintentional ;-)
>Personally, I am hoping that there are people out there who are seeing
>a real opportunity in Plan9 as a great way for hobbyists to get
>involved again in what used to be dominated by them and is now
>completely industialized. What I am referring to are the early days of
>the microcomputer revolution where people had a real sense of communal
>belonging and it was the hobbyist who pushed the technological
>envelope.
>
>Before I start going off on some weird techno-sociological tangent, I
>think I should stop here and open the floor for discussion.
>
>Absolutely not speaking for my employer....
>
>> > I, too, am curious about the disposition of Brazil.  I actually got
>> > some funding approved for Plan 9 here at MIT (I'm part of a student
>> > ...
>> > Is there an `official' answer?  Is there an unofficial answer from
>> > someone who has put more effort than I am into trying to get an
>> > official answer?
>> =20
>> here's an unofficial answer.
>> =20
>> we've been working on other things for the past year or so,
>> so there has been little new work on brazil.  phil and rob
>> and dave say that they want to get back to working on
>> brazil, but we don't know when that will be.
>>=20
>> our plan 9 system is only used to access the old worm for archival
>> purposes.  our new file server contains only the brazil source
>> tree, so brazil is our current development system.  brazil is not
>> in a state that is releasable, so i doubt that there will be
>> a brazil release in the foreseeable future.
>>=20
>> of course, all of this could change in a wink.
>
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